Cup and Char Pepperoni: How to Get Those Crispy Little Cups at Home

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Cup and Char Pepperoni: How to Get Those Crispy Little Cups at Home

It is not luck and it is not your oven. It is the casing, the slice and where the heat comes from, and you can control all three.

You have seen the photos. A pizza covered in tiny curled bowls of pepperoni, each one with a blackened rim and a little pool of red oil in the middle. Then you make pepperoni pizza at home and every slice lies there flat as a coaster.

Cup and char pepperoni is a specific product, sliced a specific way, baked a specific way. Get those three right and the cups show up. Miss any one of them and you are back to coasters.

I went through the meat-industry trade press, Hormel's own product specs, a pizza reviewer's 11-brand cupping test and the well-known thickness experiments to figure out which parts actually matter. Here is what I found, and how to use it on a Friday night.

Key Takeaways

  • The casing does the curling. Natural or collagen casing left on the slice shrinks in the heat and pulls the edge up. Fibrous casing gets peeled off at the factory, so those slices stay flat.
  • Slice it about ⅛ inch thick. The widely cited sweet spot runs from 0.1 to 0.225 inch. Too thin curls into a crisp, too thick is too stiff to move.
  • Pepperoni goes on top of the cheese, where the oven heat hits the top of the slice harder than the bottom.
  • Hot and fast wins. A preheated stone or steel plus a blast of broiler gives the most dramatic cups.
  • Labels lie a little. Plenty of sticks that never say cup and char will cup, and a pre-sliced bag almost never will.

What Is On This Page

  1. What cup and char pepperoni actually is
  2. Why some pepperoni cups and some lies flat
  3. Casing: the first thing to check
  4. Slice thickness: the ⅛-inch sweet spot
  5. What an 11-brand cupping test found
  6. Where to buy it
  7. How to bake for maximum cups
  8. The cup-and-char method, step by step
  9. The grease question
  10. Questions people actually ask

What Cup and Char Pepperoni Actually Is

Cup and char is a name for pepperoni that curls into a bowl as it bakes and chars at the rim. You will also see it sold as cupping pepperoni, old world pepperoni or, if you hang out on pizza Instagram, roni cups.

Hormel's foodservice spec for Rosa Grande Cup and Char pepperoni gives a good picture of what the product looks like on paper. It is a pork and beef pepperoni in collagen casing, 32 mm (about 1¼ inches) across, sliced to an exact 16 slices per ounce. That is smaller across and thicker than the silver-dollar slices on most chain pizzas.

Flat, pre-sliced deli pepperoni is the khaki pants of pizza toppings. Inoffensive, everywhere, and nobody has ever posted a photo of it. Cupping pepperoni is the opposite, which is a big part of why it took off.

Why Some Pepperoni Cups and Some Lies Flat

Three things work together here, and the clearest explanation comes from the meat industry itself. In a 2020 piece for MEAT+POULTRY, Donna Berry explains the curl like this: the edges of the slice curl up toward the heat source and cook before the center does, while cheese and dough insulate the bottom and keep the middle flat.

Heat comes from above, the slice shrinks from the top, and the edges lift. The same piece adds that the casing should shrink quickly, so the edges can rise before the slice gets locked in place. Even the way the meat flows into the casing during stuffing affects the curl.

The thickness numbers most people quote come from food writer J. Kenji López-Alt's experiments. As Tasting Table summarizes his findings, the top of each slice gets more heat than the bottom, natural or collagen casing curls better, and the ideal thickness sits between 0.1 and 0.225 inch.

So why did flat pepperoni take over?

History, mostly. A 2019 Wall Street Journal story reposted by Hormel explains that the original pepperoni was made in natural casings left on during slicing, and those casings contracted in the oven so the slices puckered.

After World War II, makers chasing efficiency switched mostly to paper-like fibrous casings that were peeled off before slicing. No casing, no curl. Lay-flat became the national norm for decades, while cupping hung on in holdout markets like Buffalo and Detroit. You can read more about those regional pies in my guide to popular pizza styles.

Casing: The First Thing to Check

If you only remember one thing from this page, make it this. The casing is the engine of the cup. Here is how the three common types compare, based on MEAT+POULTRY's casings primer and the cupping sources above.

CasingMade fromOn the slice?Cupping odds
NaturalCleaned hog, sheep or beef intestineYes, eaten with the sliceHigh
CollagenManufactured from animal collagen, uniform diameterYes on cupping products like Rosa GrandeHigh
Fibrous or celluloseUsually wood pulp, the toughest casing, inedibleNo, peeled off before slicingLow, slices lie flat

The practical test is easy. Look at the edge of a slice or the outside of the stick. If you can see a thin skin around the rim, you are in business. If the stick came out of a peel-off wrapper and the meat goes right to the edge, expect coasters.

The same WSJ story notes that some cupping products carry slightly more sugar to encourage charred edges, and some makers stuff their casings in proprietary ways to help the curl. So two natural-casing sticks can still behave differently. For a deeper look at what goes inside the casing, see my explainer on what pepperoni is made of.

Slice Thickness: The ⅛-Inch Sweet Spot

Even the right stick will not cup if you slice it wrong. MEAT+POULTRY puts the problem plainly: too thin and the whole slice curls, too thick and the slice is too heavy to lift. The exact sweet spot depends on how dense the pepperoni is.

Where the cups live

0 in0.10.20.3 in
Pre-sliced deli bags · paper-thin · shallow bowls at best
Cited cupping range · 0.1 to 0.225 inch
Thursday Night Pizza best result · about ⅛ inch
Thick-cut · past about ¼ inch · too stiff to lift
The takeaway: aim for about ⅛ inch, a little over 3 mm. Thin enough for the edge to lift, thick enough to hold a cup shape.
Sources: thickness range as reported by Tasting Table and Food Republic from López-Alt's tests; ⅛-inch result from Thursday Night Pizza; thin and thick failure modes from MEAT+POULTRY. The pre-sliced bar is illustrative, not a measured thickness.

Food Republic's guide to slicing for cups lands on the same 0.1 to 0.225 inch window, and explains the logic: a thicker slice widens the temperature gap between top and bottom, but go too thick and it gets too stiff to curl.

Use a sharp chef's knife and slice it yourself. A whole stick lets you hit that window. A bag of pre-sliced pepperoni has already made the decision for you, and it is almost always too thin.

What an 11-Brand Cupping Test Found

I have not lined up 11 pepperoni sticks in my own kitchen, but somebody did. Jim Mirabelli of NEPA Pizza Review bought pepperoni from supermarkets, big-box stores and Amazon, sliced them and baked each on an 11-inch pie with the same sauce and Grande whole-milk mozzarella. His pepperoni power rankings scored each one for cupping and taste.

Cupping score out of 10, NEPA Pizza Review

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Hormel Pepperoni · 9.6
Battistoni Cup and Char stick · 8.7
Margherita · 8.5 (top taste score, 9.2)
Vermont Smoke and Cure · 7.9
Boar's Head · 7.2
Bridgford · 7.1
Battistoni Classic · 7.0
Dietz and Watson · 7.0
DeLallo · 6.8
Foustman's Salami Pepperoni · 4.4
Sugardale, pre-sliced · 2.2
The pattern: nine of the 11 products scored 6.8 or better for cupping. The only pre-sliced product in the lineup finished dead last.
Source: NEPA Pizza Review, Pepperoni Power Rankings, 2024. Scores are the reviewer's own and described by him as subjective, based on visual observation and a taste test. Oven temperature was not stated. Charted by That Pizza Kitchen.

Two things jump out. Most sticks cup reasonably well when you slice them yourself, including brands that never put cup and char on the label. And taste and cupping are separate scores. Foustman's barely cupped but scored 8.1 for taste, and Mirabelli notes its edges still curled and crisped.

Where to Buy It

Availability is the annoying part. Mirabelli writes that true cup and char is hard to find in many areas, and that pizzerias often buy it in 25-pound cases. Back in 2020, PMQ reported Buffalo pizzerias stressing over a cup and char shortage, with one owner calling it definitely a hallmark of Buffalo-style pizza.

Here is where I would look, in order:

  • The deli counter or specialty meat case. Look for whole sticks in natural or collagen casing. Old world on the label is a good sign, but check the edge for skin anyway.
  • The packaged pepperoni aisle. Hormel launched Pepperoni Cup N' Crisp in 2020 as a retail cupping product, in original and bold, sized at one 5-ounce package per pizza. The launch announcement says to lay it over the cheese and bake as usual.
  • Your local pizzeria. If a shop near you serves cupping pepperoni, ask whether it will sell you some. Worst case, they say no and you buy a slice for research purposes.

Expect to pay a little more. The Hormel-reposted WSJ story put cupping pepperoni at about 15 percent more than lay-flat, partly because it takes more time to produce.

How to Bake for Maximum Cups

Pepperoni goes on last, on top of the cheese. Hormel's spec says the same thing for its cup and char. Tuck slices under the cheese and you insulate the top, which is exactly the side that needs to shrink.

Then give it heat. Thursday Night Pizza ran the same pepperonis on two pizzas. On a pan at 500°F, old world pepperoni cupped nicely and the American-style stick only curled a little at the edges. On a stone preheated at 550°F for an hour and finished under the broiler, the old world slices cupped gorgeously and even the pre-sliced kind baked into shallow bowls.

That lines up with the mechanism. Top heat lifts the edges, so a broiler finish is your friend. If your oven tops out lower, a preheated stone or baking steel plus the broiler for the last minute or two gets you most of the way. My breakdown of the best oven settings for pizza at home covers which setting to use for each step.

The edges of the slice curl toward the heat source and cook before the center does. Feed the top of the pizza heat and the pepperoni does the rest.Zach, paraphrasing MEAT+POULTRY on why pepperoni cups

The Cup-and-Char Method, Step by Step

How to Get Cup and Char Pepperoni on a Home Pizza

This is a technique card, not a full pizza recipe. Use it on top of your favorite dough and sauce. For a complete pie, my homemade pepperoni pizza recipe has everything from dough to bake.

Prep5 minutes
OvenAs hot as it goes, 500 to 550°F
FinishBroiler, 1 to 2 minutes
AmountAbout 5 oz per pizza

What you need

  • A whole pepperoni stick in natural or collagen casing
  • A sharp chef's knife
  • A pizza stone or steel, or a heavy sheet pan

Steps

  1. Preheat hard. Put the stone or steel on an upper-middle rack and heat the oven as high as it goes for a full hour.
  2. Check the casing. Look for a thin skin on the outside of the stick. Leave it on. That skin is what pulls the edges up.
  3. Slice to about ⅛ inch. Stay inside the 0.1 to 0.225 inch window. If the stick is fat, slice toward the thin end so the bigger slices can still lift.
  4. Build sauce, then cheese, then pepperoni. Lay the slices on top of the cheese. Overlapping a little is fine, and plenty of shops stack them deep.
  5. Bake, then broil. Bake until the crust is set and the cheese is bubbling, then switch to broil for the last 1 to 2 minutes. Watch through the glass. The edges should lift, darken and crisp while the centers fill with orange oil.
  6. Rest a minute before slicing. The cups firm up as they cool slightly and are less likely to tip over when you cut.

Variation: Drizzle a little hot honey over the finished pie. The sweet heat lands right in the cups, and it is the move behind my hot honey pizza.

Skip the bag

Pre-sliced pepperoni scored lowest in the cupping test above and only made shallow bowls even with a broiler finish. Buy the stick.

Smaller is easier

Cupping products tend to be narrow. Hormel's runs about 1¼ inches across. A narrow slice lifts more easily than a wide one.

Mind the cheese

Low-moisture mozzarella keeps the top dry and hot. My guide to the best mozzarella for pizza compares the options.

The Grease Question

Those little pools of oil are the whole point for fans, and the whole problem for critics. USDA nutrient data for sliced beef and pork pepperoni lists 46.3 grams of fat per 100 grams. By my arithmetic, a 5-ounce pile of slices carries about 66 grams of fat, and a lot of it melts out in the oven.

Cups catch that fat. Flat slices let it run. MEAT+POULTRY calls the cup a grease chalice, and that is a fair description. On a flat-pepperoni pie the same fat drifts across the cheese.

The catch is spills. In the WSJ story, Paulie Gee's founder Paulie Giannone called high-volume cupping pepperoni unmanageable, because cups tumble off and dump their oil. So go generous, but do not build a pepperoni Jenga tower. If you are watching salt, that same USDA entry lists 1,582 mg of sodium per 100 grams, and my guide to low sodium pizza has ways to balance it out.

Questions People Actually Ask

Can I make regular pepperoni cup?

Sometimes. In Thursday Night Pizza's stone-and-broiler test, an American-style stick curled almost into cups and even pre-sliced pepperoni made shallow bowls. A thicker hand-cut slice, a hot stone and a broiler finish give ordinary pepperoni its best shot. Without a casing, though, do not expect deep cups.

Should I peel the casing off?

No. On natural or collagen casing pepperoni, the casing stays on the slice, gets eaten with it, and is what makes the slice curl. Only peel a casing that feels papery and tough, which usually means fibrous, and that kind will not cup anyway.

Does pepperoni need to be cooked first?

No. Hormel lists its cup and char as ready to eat and fully cooked. The oven is there to render fat and crisp the edges, not to make it safe.

Is cup and char the same as old world pepperoni?

Close enough for shopping. Old world usually signals a natural-casing stick, which is what cups. Thursday Night Pizza found the label itself is unreliable, so check for the casing instead of trusting the name.

Buy the Stick, Slice It Yourself

Natural casing, ⅛-inch slices, on top of the cheese, hot stone, broiler finish. That is the whole trick. Put it to work with my pro tips for better pepperoni pizza, start from a reliable pizza dough, and find more upgrades in my homemade pizza toppings guide.

Sources

  1. Donna Berry, MEAT+POULTRY, Keeping the curl in pepperoni, March 2020. https://meatpoultry.com/articles/22842-keeping-the-curl-in-pepperoni
  2. Donna Berry, MEAT+POULTRY, Casings 101, December 2018. https://meatpoultry.com/articles/20631-casings-101
  3. Hormel Foods newsroom, The Great Pepperoni Debate: Should It Lie Flat on Your Pizza or Curl Up?, repost of a Wall Street Journal story, March 2019. https://hormelfoods.com/newsroom/news/the-great-pepperoni-debate-should-it-lie-flat-on-your-pizza-or-curl-up
  4. Hormel Foodservice, Rosa Grande Cup and Char Pepperoni, Sliced, product specification. https://www.hormelfoodservice.com/?p=24418
  5. Hormel Foods, press release on the launch of Hormel Pepperoni Cup N' Crisp, March 2020. https://www.hormelfoods.com/newsroom/press-releases/the-makers-of-americas-no-1-pepperoni-are-changing-the-pizza-game-with-the-launch-of-hormel-pepperoni-cup-n-crisp/
  6. Jim Mirabelli, NEPA Pizza Review, Pepperoni Power Rankings: Testing the Best Cup N Char, 2024. https://nepapizzareview.com/2024/03/pepperoni-power-rankings-testing-the-best-cup-n-char.html
  7. Rick Hynum, PMQ Pizza Magazine, Buffalo pizzeria owners stressing over shortage of cup and char pepperoni, November 2020. https://www.pmq.com/buffalo-pizzeria-owners-stressing-over-shortage-of-cup-and-char-pepperoni/
  8. Jen Peng, Tasting Table, Why Does Some Pepperoni Curl When Cooked?, 2022. https://tastingtable.com/825828/why-does-some-pepperoni-curl-when-cooked
  9. Food Republic, How To Buy And Slice Pepperoni For Perfect Crispy Cups. https://www.foodrepublic.com/1298004/how-buy-slice-pepperoni-perfect-crispy-cups/
  10. Thursday Night Pizza, Cup and Char Pepperoni. https://www.thursdaynightpizza.com/cup-and-char-pepperoni/
  11. USDA FoodData Central 174575, Pepperoni, beef and pork, sliced. https://getfoodfacts.com/food/pepperoni-beef-and-pork-sliced-174575

Method note: this article reports published figures, trade-press explanations and other people's tests. I ran no pepperoni trials of my own. The cupping scores are NEPA Pizza Review's and the pan versus stone results are Thursday Night Pizza's. The thickness range is López-Alt's, as reported by Tasting Table and Food Republic.

The 66-gram fat figure is That Pizza Kitchen arithmetic, not a measurement. The 5-ounce amount per pie comes from Hormel's retail guidance. The rack position, one-hour preheat, broiler timing, resting step and slicing toward the thin end for wide sticks are That Pizza Kitchen guidance, not tested results. Brand names are mentioned for reference only, with no paid or affiliate relationship.

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